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I make the argument that rather than being "AI's original sin," the use of copyrighted material by AI could be the foundation of great new business models and ecosystems, if AI companies treat copyright violation with the same seriousness as they treat other possible harms, and start to build copyright-aware technology and services. At O'Reilly, we pay our authors when we generate AI-driven answers and summaries or other derivative works, and it seems to us that if we can do it, the deep pocketed AI providers can too. What AI developers need to think about is their ecosystem or "architecture of participation," and how to build a win-win economic model that continues to reward content creators. It doesn't have to be a winner-takes-all game.

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Clifford Jones

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Tim O'Reilly, if we lived when the telegraph launched, some people would bitch.It's always been this way.As a writer and visual artist, what artist would not admit they copy or emulate the works for artists who csme before them?Those with the biggest egos can't or won't admit all artists copy or emulate other artists.It's how artists become great..."Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso"Imitation is not just the sincerest form of flattery – it's the sincerest form of learning." - George Bernard Shaw"Those who do not want to imitate anything, produce nothing." - Salvador Dalí"Bad artists copy. Good artists steal." - T.S. Eliot"To copy others is necessary, but to copy oneself is pathetic." - Pablo Picasso"Immature artists imitate. Mature artists steal." - Lionel TrillingSee the pattern?

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Bruce N. Goren

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Thoughtful plan. I worry though that ai companies will use this as a fig leaf and like Google/Youtube impose a minimum aggregate payment threshold as a firewall against ever compensating copyright holders. For instance after over a decade of accumulating micro-payments from Google they still have not sent me a penny since the grand total does not amount to more than a few dollars. Multiply that by a couple of billion users and it amounts to real money stolen or held hostage. The ai folks seem to have the same outlaw attitude that the ride share folks had when they first began to violate municipal livery laws to disrupt the taxi industry - as the mother of COBOL Admiral Grace Hopper once said " It's easier to apologize than ask permission " .

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Ash Sharma

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The data model (and attribution for it) is probably the largest can that's currently just being kicked down the road of #AI. While LLMs stay data hungry and synthetic data is yet to fulfill its promise, this is an opportunity to finally clean up the data value-chain that drives online advertising and web content models today. Tim O'Reilly has been highlighting this for decades now (early days of what became Web 2.0).

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Ayori ‘Selfpreneur’ Selassie

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I agree that a more collective intelligence model is better for all life and humankind, however, the dependency on large platforms to be equitable has been proven untrustworthy. Entertainment industry royalties for example are and have been extremely imbalanced against the creators. We cannot get people to trust this if industry after industry demonstrates that they will use their power to bully creators into bad contracts.

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Kit Neal

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Adam Timlett , Antoine Boatwright (BSc, MSc, MBA) - you might find this post interesting.

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Dennis H.

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Tim O'Reilly I've respected you and your company for my entire career in tech and have purchased countless books over recent decades, however, this run-away train called AI has winner-takes-all written all over it, as the tech titans that are already wildly wealthy, stand to win most of the spoils yet again. It's important to acknowledge that our digital revolution has not generally created shared prosperity. Our digital era has not been kind to content creators either as Amazon decimated book royalties, and Spotify did the same to recorded music. It is difficult to imagine the carnage that AI might inflict on the film industry.AI threatens to be considerably worse in this and other significant respects.I recommend this book: POWER and PROGRESS, OUR 1000-YEAR STRUGGLE OVER TECHNOLOGY AND PROSPERITY by Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson -- both economists at MIT.Warning: Not an O'Reilly book but a good one just the same.https://shapingwork.mit.edu/power-and-progress/

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James McCabe

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But authors, real authors, don't rent out their birthrights. 🤣

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Eric Bonabeau

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Tim O'Reilly super interesting! You write: "Because we know what content was used to produce the generated answer, we are not only able to provide links to the sources used to generate the answer, but to pay authors in proportion to the role of their content in generating it." How do you measure the proportion/role played by an author's content in an answer? This model should be generalizable.

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I can only laugh. Of course we'd expect Tim O'Reilly and your company to set the standard in this regard - you and your teams have always had a reputation for being ethical and creator-friendly, but far too many media companies are anything but; don't get me wrong, I hope your best practices and deals like Universal Music are cutting become the norm, but history would indicate just the opposite is happening.

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Where do you see public Web crawling in this context?

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